Militarily, the United States is already stretched thin. We're in both Iraq and Afghanistan, with an invasion of Iran possible in the not-so-distant future. For the most part, our issues with North Korea have been resolved - or rather, it's not an issue at the moment. Add to that the millions of men and women stationed all around the world in strategic places (or just military bases) and it's even worse. Now imagine that Russia doesn't accept our demands regarding Georgia... or that Russia doesn't appreciate us choosing Georgia over them.
There is a cease-fire in effect, but we'll see how long that lasts.
According to Mikhail Gorbachev, Georgia surely started the conflict. But, according to the Georgian president, Russia started it, so who knows. Perspective is the name of the game.
I don't really have that much more to say on the subject. I don't know the history of either country that well, aside from during the wars of this century.
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One thing is for certain, "You can trust the communists to be communists."
I looked at the Russian news online, and it is the exact opposite of what we are getting here, so who knows?
The whole thing makes me nervous.
The only thing I can say with certainty is that we don't trust the Russians for a reason, and we call the Georgians our alleys for a reason.
In the end, Russia used extreme force against our alleys - provoked or not, 3,000 civilians in 2 days is excessive when you are talking about a "rebel skirmish."
Much agreed.
My biggest fear is that this turns into another Cold War-type situation that'll lead to World War III (hence my nifty title).
Hopefully this'll all get settled soon.
Whatever both sides of the story are, I am trying to stick to the facts. Of course we do not know much facts and will never know, but the truth will always come out.
There are few things known for sure:
1. Russian peacemakers in S. Osetia were killed, civilians in Tschinvali were killed also.
2. Russian regular forces responded to this almost 1 day later. If they started the whole thing, why is this?
3. Just watch and listen to all interview of the Georgian President and analyze it. Just put things together in chronological order.
4. Where OSCE people are? Why they do not say anything? They had a mission in S. Ossetia. Are they killed or? If they were there, it was not possible not to see what is going on. Why THEY did not started to inform the whole world?
Victor you're obviously communist. Let's do as you say and stick to the facts.
1. We don't know if the Russian "peacemakers" were really peacemakers. Russia supports the rebels on S. Osetia making the "peacemakers" really supporters of terrorists.
2. For the deaths of 10 Russian peacemakers at least 3,000 people to include civilians were killed in Georgia (you probably think that's ok).
3. "Russian regular forces responded to this almost 1 day later." If they didn't start the whole thing how the hell could they respond so fast.
4. Listen to what the Russian politicians are saying. CNN has confirmed Russians are lying about not occupying cities. They are still there in force destroying and killing.
5. All the previous satellite nations of the Soviets are waiting in line to get into NATO (I wonder why?).
6. All internet connections in Georgia are being attacked by Russian hackers (hmm interesting).
I don't if the Georgians are lying, but I know the Russians are. Victor stop watching Communist news.
How about we all agree that both sides have believable points, and that we don't really know what's happening over there?
I can entertain differences in opinion, but no personal attacks okay? Thanks.
Fri Aug 8, 2008 3:01am EDT
UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) -
The 15 Security Council members began
meeting late on Thursday and remained
behind closed doors for two hours until
early Friday morning to discuss the three-
sentence statement.
But council diplomats said one phrase in it
was unacceptable to the Georgians,
backed by the United States and
Europeans. That wording called on all
sides in the conflict "to renounce the use
of force," according to a draft of the text.
After failing to agree, the council decided
not to take any action on the issue, the
diplomats said.
Russian Ambassador Vitaly Churkin, who
had asked for the 11 p.m. EDT (4 a.m.
British time) meeting to be held, did not
hide his disappointment at the council's
inability to agree.
He said it "unfortunately represents the
absence of any political will amongst the
members of the Security Council."
Georgian troops, backed by warplanes,
pounded separatist forces near the South
Ossetian capital on Friday hours after launching an assault on the
breakaway region following a short-lived truce.
To your surprise, I watch CNN, Fox and Sky News. But obviously I can analyze what I see and not blindly follow.
Tell me, Mr. or Mrs. Anonymous, whatever are you, what exactly do you know about that region, it's history and it's people?
I am sure you want to see this, without any conclusions: http://osinform.ru/foto/7766-foto-razrushennogo-goroda-geroja.html
I do not support neither side, I just want to hear the truth.
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